BRKM thread

[Young Grimwold]

[OOC: The reason I didn't narrate YG's pre-mortem reaction to being impaled - and seeing as it is an important event for the character and the plot, and a challenge for me as a writer, I did want to - was because I understood from a post on July 11th that the battle had already ended by 12am on July 13th (though I did request confirmation in an OOC comment on the 12th in case I'd misunderstood). After another post on July 13th confirming the end of the battle, posting continued from other participants, which confused me further. I didn't want to contravene/defy the pre-stated end-time to the battle by continuing to roleplay, and my lack of posts after 12am on the 13th wasn't meant to suggest that I'd abandoned the characters, at all.

I would have had YG, and Hordriss (whose account I've been given temporary control over), behaving differently from how they were portrayed after the stabbing by The Boy, even if it was not my decision whether the stabbing was fatal or not. Narrating actions for my characters in this way is arguably an example of 'sockpuppeting' or 'power playing' - defined as 'taking control of another player's character to make them react to yours or do something, say something etc.' - which is frowned upon by many online roleplayers and, I'm told, generally leads to warnings being issued in other online RPGs.

Whilst I am prepared to fulfil a duty to the characters (YG and Hordriss) and to the thread, of narrating all the actions of those characters until the end - and I very much want to do this because I enjoy it and feel that the KMBR idea deserves my best efforts - I do need fixed information as to when the action is due to end; because I have some significant commitments offline, and, although I can usually timetable them around the roleplaying if I know what my roleplaying involvement is, without confirmation as to when KMBR will end, I have to put off my other commitments indefinitely and am actually risking serious financial trouble (and the associated stress) in doing so. So although I can be flexible, I can't be completely flexible. Sorry about this.

Although it seems that Hordriss may be required to participate further, I won't make any further posts for him until I can be certain that the action is officially still continuing, with a specified time-scale that I can organise my other commitments around.

I hope I haven't come across as belligerent and childish in setting out my views; if I am confused it is my fault, and having made these points, I have no wish for an argument. I also hope it doesn't seem like I'm asking the Forum to pander to me - I just want to be in a position to do my best for the Forum and its members, and I'm willing to compromise as necessary.

I'm very sorry that my lack of understanding and flexibility has let the thread and participants down at its climax.

EDIT: Now that posts are being edited and the problem is being solved, I'm happy for this OOC post to be deleted later on.]

[Ursula]

[OOC: Well, it was stated that the Battle Royale would end at midnight on the 12th, so I don't see how you're in the wrong here YG. and you'd already said you'd assumed you were making a last post.

Oh, and 'sockpuppeting' isn't the same as 'power-playing'. Sockpuppeting is when someone else takes control of your character, powe-playing is using an overpowered/munchkin/Mary-Sue/Marty-Stu character. Just clearing that one up. ;D]

[Kully]

[OOC: yes, it was supposed to end on the 12th, so you are not in the wrong. However, I was not around on the 12th to end the Battle, for personal reasons - the hospital trip which YG is aware of. For this, I apologise.

I also got the impression that players were getti ng impatient and wanted the battle to end as soon as possible. If preferable, I can remove the 'dead' label for YG and allow you to play it as you would have preferred, although you have seen before with Ursula - I allow death scenes to be elaborated after the death label has been displayed.

Removing the death label, since it seems to have confused people.

Also making mental note not to go to A&E on days major plotlines are due to end ]

[Young Grimwold]

[OOC: Unplanned absences are nothing to apologise for - especially medical-related ones. I would never be so cold and lacking in perspective as to suggest that an internet Forum is more important than health matters; and if it has seemed from what I've said that I think that way, that it is a major failure on my part to convey my thoughts properly. For that I am sorry. I am not complaining about the running of the thread, as to me, it was sufficient that a termination time had been posted in advance for all surviving contestants to observe/respect.

Thank you very much for removing the death label from YG. Unfortunately, because YG's death has been detailed in The Boy's post, I can't describe it (nor Hordriss' reaction to it) myself, retrospectively - not without making the thread more confusing for others, which is not something I favour doing. My current personal assumption is that YG and Hordriss (and the other surviving characters) died due to their necklaces tightening at the pre-stated end-time, rather than anything which occurred later; though if it is stated that the battle has/had been officially extended to a new finishing time and that there is more to be done with the characters, I will post for YG and Hordriss as necessary, as long as I know that permission has been given.

Again, sorry for creating a bother and making people uncomfortable.

EDIT: Now that posts are being edited and the problem is being solved, I'm happy for this OOC post to be deleted later on.]

[The Boy]

(OOC: My sincerest apologies for the confusion and inconvenience caused, everyone. This is my screw-up, and I certainly had no intention of undermining anyone's character or roleplaying skills. I was not aware that the battle had been given a fixed time to end - as the majority of other players obviously were, this is no doubt down to ignorance on my part. Furthermore, I had no wish at all to 'sockpuppet', or whatever the correct term is, anyone's character/actions - this being a practice I personally despise, and try to avoid at all costs. I was brought into the thread on the understanding that it was going to be something of an anti-climax, and I was given free reign to spice up the proceedings as I saw fit in the moments leading up to the plot's conclusion. Young Grimwold has hinted that a warning should be issued by the moderator, which is something I have absolutely no problems with should that be the correct course of action.)

(Despite the 'battle ended' post by Kully following the stabbing of Grimwold, some participants have continued to post, and for that I also apologise - it has merely been a misunderstanding. I am also now aware that several of the participants have been indisposed for personal reasons, none of which I hope have been too serious or painful. There's more important things in life than roleplaying, after all.)

(With that being said, I personally think that the thread requires a more elaborate conclusion than what we currently have - not in terms of character actions (do what you will, after all) - but in terms of letting the different participants' plotlines be concluded in a more fleshed-out and emotional fashion. I would love to have Grimwold roleplay his own death, it was only through his enforced absence that I felt the need to do it myself.)

(So, if the moderator and other participants wish to do so, I would like nothing more than to delete the recent posts - including these OOC ones, which kinda take away from the brutality and tragedy of it all - and let Grimwold et al conclude the thread as they see fit. I won't be online for a few days, so I hereby give full permission for The Boy's posts to be amended, restructured and/or deleted to facilitate an outcome that is to everyone's satisfaction. I apologise once again for any faux pas on my part, I haven't been here very long and have simply made an unfortunate mistake.)

[** NOTE ** - as the matter is being resloved, please delete this post as required. Thank You.]

[Kully]

Hi guys!

Small problem. My computer network is down in uni, and I'm currently typing from a friend's computer in town. I don't know when it will be fixed, so I may be away for a day or two and unable to mod this thread. This means if you carry on roleplay and cast spells/drink potions I can't tell you what happens to you. My EXTREME apologies for this inconvenience, I am as miffed as I'm assuming you lot are, cos I really wanted to have this run well. I hope you have no objections to the thread being put on hold for a few days or less.

This will also benefit the fact that a couple of players have informed me that they have to cease play for a few days (circumstances beyond their control), which would throw the thread anyway. I hope you all understand the problems here, and how they can be solved by a time freeze.

I am going to cease the thread until sunday, and then find a way of getting on the net if I'm not back already (I don't think it will take much longer than that). If certain players are still unable to partake I have their permission to remove them from the battle in roleplaying form so the thread can continue. I will not let this dwindle any longer than that

Thanks for your understanding! Please feel free to rage in this thread at me.

[FrightKnight]

Grahhhh.

There, that's enough. ;D

What to do when circumstances are dictators?

Good thing, in a way- I'm a weeny bit busy with lots of things at the moment.

[Tom Troughton]

I also apolagise this is partly my fault.

I'm one of the players who have had to levave for a unspecifeid lenth of time.

Sorry guys.

[Kully]

Just nipping on...don't worry, TT. Even real life can get in the way of roleplay sometimes

[Young Grimwold]

I will find the downtime useful for checking back over old posts (especially the BRKM ones, as I've not been that able to frequent the Forum over the past several days for various reasons), preparing (for) new posts, and getting on with some other business. So no complaints from me! I understand and endorse the hiatus for the thread.

[Young Grimwold]

On behalf of the moderators, I'd like to apologise for the extended pause on the BRKM thread. Hopefully, circumstances will allow Kully to return to the Forum within the week, and recommence the story.

As we know from Knightmare itself, a 'time freeze' is an effective way of providing suspense, and in this case too, 'game on' is worth waiting a little while for! Thank you to all participants for their patience - it is appreciated.

[Ursula]

No problem, I've been busy fussing over my poor little sick betta anyway, so I wouldn;t have been around much myself.

[Kully]

game on! Net is fixed! Thanks for all your patience, guys!

TT will be removed from BR shortly, since his net connection has screwed him over royally, poor chap. Maybe next battle kidding...kidding...